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LRivera
06-18-2007 23:59:34 GMT +2

Hi everyone. I, like thousands of users, am having problems because I would like to use the new Dreamweaver CS3 but any site created using the PHAkt ADOdb server model will not work in CS3. So I won't be able to manage my sites using the server model I need. This is bad... really bad!

So, since PHAkt was released under a GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE then I would like to receive the PHAkt source code so I can work with it and attempt to modify it as necessary so it can work under Dreamweaver CS3. This is a standard GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE concept. You can take the source code of the original distribution and change it at your will. Isn't this right?

So please let me know how can I get the PHAkt source code. Please answer to this post as soon as possible. This is an urgent matter. Thanks very much.

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Cristinel ANASTASOAIE[InterAKT Online]Adobe Systems Romania staff
06-19-2007 19:54:23 GMT +2

Hello Louis,

The PHAkt product license is LGPL (Lesser General Public License). However, we are not going to make the source code public and eventually support a release of a side product based on this source code.

Beste regards,

Cristinel

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LRivera
06-19-2007 20:39:40 GMT +2

Thanks for your response Cristinel.

I was just browsing the web to find the difference between the GPL and LGPL licenses and it is still not clear to me. From what I understand, the GPL license makes the source code of the ibrary, package or product to only be usable under other GPL products; meaning it can only be used in free software. On the other hand, the LPGL makes it possible to use the code on propietary programs; meaning it could be used on software that can be bought.

Now, shouldn't the users still have the right to grab the PHAkt source code? Do you even have a choice not to release the source code?

If you could explain a bit better I would really appreciate it, and tons of other users.

Thanks Cristinel.

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Timothy Anderson
07-08-2007 22:26:07 GMT +2

I found this a while back, says it is verison 3.5.1, which while not the current verison, but is not very old either.

 

http://freshmeat.net/projects/phakt/

 

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Timothy Anderson
07-08-2007 22:30:18 GMT +2

Never mind, does not seam to have anything to download, but it does say the project was GPL, not LGPL (This is probably a mistake)

 

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LRivera
07-09-2007 08:34:53 GMT +2

Thanks anyway.

I can't believe that most companies in the world are trying to release GPL products to the market, but here they are making a popular free product, which is needed  by thousands of developers, a commercial product. It's just unbelievable.

Thanks Interakt for giving us PHAkt for free for a few years, but it is not the right thing to just stop developing it and even stop any users from being able to develop PHAkt for FREE for other users. The right thing to do is release the code so we as developers can work with it and release a free version for CS3. Reducing the server models does not improve the quality of Dreamweaver. It doesn't make sense.

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Peter Bartelt
07-11-2007 16:23:28 GMT +2

I am also very annoyed about the situation and I agree with you.

Peter

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JeffB
07-11-2007 18:29:00 GMT +2

Q: Are you going to release another newer version (paid or free) of phakt in the future or is it gone forever?

Jeffb

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Ralph McLemore
07-16-2007 23:29:17 GMT +2

LRivera,

They can only be forced to release the source if they based the library on other LGPL or GPL code, and then only by the holder of the original copyright. That's the pickle. It is open source but only the copyright holder (Interakt or Adobe) has the right to enforce the LGPL. If someone does have the source though, obtained through legal means then as long as Interakts copyright notice is left and the source is made availible then it would be perfectly ok to develop and release that code or even the original as is.

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Joris van Lier
07-24-2007 01:04:31 GMT +2

 

If someone does have the source though, obtained through legal means then as long as Interakts copyright notice is left and the source is made availible then it would be perfectly ok to develop and release that code or even the original as is.

Are you saying that someone could legally publish the MXP original files?

I myself have used phakt for a long time, and i've created a few free extensions for that server model, could i legally merge my mxi with phAKT's, repackage it  and create a sourceforge project and release as MXP?

Are there changes in the extension API in DWCS3 that prevent porting phAKT?

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T S
09-08-2007 23:38:24 GMT +2

Hi,

I talked to EFF about this and you can indeed take that source code and post it on Source Forge.

PHAKT was created as a community effort.  Although Adobe/InterAKT has no
requirement to post the source, it also has no right to stop anyone else from modifying it since it was posted on the website.

All talk of "intellectual property" here is misleading.  


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